HyundaiKitCoupe

^I agree, however on the grounds that it's because nobody is willing to reform education (yes there are ways, start by ridding the SAT), and overwhelmingly expanding teen pregnancy/poverty rates. They don't understand that's what their REAL problem is, not economics or job creation! Not to mention the war and all the health insurance costs our kids will be paying off. They're like, f all that, >taxes. Done.

Red Raspberry

Dept of Education didn't fix education.



Dept. of Energy didn't fix the energy problem.

silvershark78

The only way to fix education is to abolish the teachers union and start paying merit pay for well performing teachers

Red Raspberry

And half the administrators.

i8acobra

Don't quote me, like I brought race into it. My post was in response to:

i8acobra

Yeah, that's the problem, the union. :rolls eyes:

Whatnot

Sorry, I guess you weren't the first to bring it in, but you brought it in none the less, two wrongs don't make a right. Notice you spoke of race, and in my response I didn't use race? So it IS possible to respond to a racist remark and not use racism. I guess if you want to be racist, that is on you, but I am more so knocking down your excuse that you did it because you were responding to someone eleses.



I stand by my statement that says "no need to bring race into it" there are plenty of non-white ignorant folks.... Why not just say "If you're going to talk about the ignorance vote, don't forget all of the uneducated folks who ask Jesus who to vote for." How hard is that?

Red Raspberry

Tell me about it. Religion has no place in politics yet to some it is the same.

Tibbi

Yep, I brought it up, but hardly created the problem, that was evident over 4 years ago and mark my words will be a major issue again, above and beyond the current.

Though I didn't quite go so far as to paint the same bigoted image, that was far from logical progression to the argument. Good debate tactic, take snippets from previous commentary and jumble it to escalate the subject. Still, you and I both know this is the case, all of the taboos will be issue. Gay marriage was used for political purposes, race has already been dropped, class warfare comes standard, and all he illogically grounded paranoia that one can muster. Don't worry, we'll only throw old ladies off a cliff Sparta style just like we did in the Bush years. I hear our population was cut in half by the bloodthirsty cannibalizing republicans. Who wants another 4 years of legalized bum hunting?

silvershark78

told you that you were a union guy...when the teachers union had there convention years ago, the sole topic was about unionizing walmart...not about improving education...unionizing walmart. You tell me how unions are not counterproductive and maybe i'll listen

and i'm asking for a serious, educated reply