Carrera

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Spec_Gla...e&trimid=-1

go through the specs and look..


So of course im now curious about fitment lol


Is t he 4WD on the santa fe AWD, or is it FWD with temporary 4WD when you engage it? Either way, say you were to somehow make it fit in a tiburon, think it would be good traction?

just being curious as usual laugh.gif

Korean_Redneck

I heard the internals are very weak. It is a Mitsubishi 2.4L derived engine. I pumps less hp than the 2.0L and it's heavier

Alex01tib

The GL is the only trim that comes with the 2.4L 4 cyl, this trim is not 4 wheel drive.

Also, this can clear up your AWD vs 4WD confusion

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YOUR RIDE: 4WD vs. AWD
05.23.2005
By Jennifer Glowicki

4-Wheel-Drive and All-Wheel-Drive Systems -- Know Your Options

More and more often, 4-wheel drive and all-wheel drive are becoming popular options not only for SUVs, but cars as well. All SUVs and pickup trucks offer 4WD systems, and even some minivans like the Toyota Sienna and Pontiac Montana, offer available AWD systems. Oftentimes, more than one system is available for any given vehicle, leaving consumers puzzled.

With so many options to choose from, it's easy for drivers to get confused by a barrage of acronyms, each more meaningless than the last. For most consumers, there are three basic options: Full-time 4WD, part-time 4WD, or all-wheel drive. Although each system has its own merits, one thing is certain--any 4WD system will make your vehicle less fuel efficient and more complicated to repair and maintain.

On the other hand, with 4WD you are less likely to get stuck in snow or mud. Most consumers want 4WD because it adds a measure of security to a vehicle, but finding out and deciding which system is right for you is both an important and complex job. Choose wisely.

Part-time 4WD
This most basic system provides a choice of settings that can be changed depending on your driving situation, but cannot be left engaged on dry pavement. If it is, the transfer case will wear, resulting in mechanical damage. The settings range from 2WD, 4WD High, and 4WD Low. In vehicles that have part-time 4WD, each of the four wheels constantly gets 25% of the torque to prevent wheelspin when in the High or Low setting. In newer models, the driver can shift from 2WD to 4WD High while driving, but must come to a complete stop to shift into the 4WD Low setting. 4WD Low should only be engaged in extreme off-road situations. One drawback of part-time 4WD is that it must be continually engaged and then disengaged in conditions of light rain or snow. This type of system is best for people who really don't need 4WD, but occasionally go off-roading and want a little extra security when it snows.

Full-time 4WD
Unlike part-time 4WD, full-time 4WD, is just that--a system that can continually remain operating. This more advanced, convenient form of 4WD allows you to choose between all of the same settings, but can remain engaged while on dry pavement. Added to the High and Low settings is an automatic or full-time 4WD setting. As with part-time 4WD, the shift from High to Low must be made during a complete stop on most vehicles. Full-time 4WD is best for people who regularly drive in slippery conditions where constant shifting between 2WD and 4WD can become tedious.

All-Wheel Drive
All-wheel drive is similar to full-time 4WD in that the system is always sending power to the wheels with the most traction, but AWD has no 2WD switch. It is always operating in 4WD mode. When the road gets slippery, the AWD system locks the axles and automatically distributes power to all four of the tires. In many cases, AWD vehicles have no on/off switch. Some AWD systems are more rugged than others, though most can't be taken into extreme off-road situations. If the AWD system allows the driver to switch to a "low" range gearing setting, like in the Dodge Durango and Toyota 4Runner, then it is probably intended for severe off-road use. AWD systems work well in cars and crossover vehicles because they don't add much weight and make them true all-weather vehicles.

Safety Misconceptions
While 4WD and AWD may maximize traction better than 2WD, that doesn't necessarily translate into making it a safer vehicle. Oftentimes, drivers believe that because they can accelerate in snow just as quickly as on dry roads, they can do the same in terms of cornering and braking. On the contrary, 4WD and AWD do little to aid in cornering and nothing for braking ability on wet, snowy roads. Once moving, the physics of 2WD, 4WD, and AWD systems are pretty much the same. Rather than rely on AWD or 4WD, it's a better idea to think of them as an insurance policy that's there when you need it.

For most consumers, a set of quality all-season tires is a much better and less-expensive alternative to pricey and complex all-wheel-drive systems. Even the most advanced 4WD vehicle will be left spinning its wheels in the snow if they are shod with performance or touring tires.</div>

Carrera

So what type does the santa fe have? I dont really care about driveability or fuel economy, im thinking purely about getting the power to the ground. Would it be useful on a track at all? im thinking purely in terms of non-daily driver

Alex01tib

Well according to THIS SITE its full time 4WD

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Also Hyundai's full-time 4WD system</div>

but it doesnt matter, because the 4wd is only available with the V6

Kantizuni

Regarding the 2.4L....

2003 Santa Fe:

2.4L 138HP I4
Horsepower 2.4L 138 hp @ 6000 RPM
Torque 138 @ 5500 RPM


2000 Tiburon:

2.0L 140HP I4
Horsepower 140 @ 6000 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 133 @ 4800 RPM

REDZMAN

Yeah, we've discussed the 2.4L before, and it sorta sucks.

The same engine is on a few new Kia models, along with the 2.7L of all friggin things.


The NEW 2.4L world engine should be hitting some of these cars soon, and THAT one will kick some ass.

Mad-Machine

You could probably get the 2.4 to perform with a lot of work. Lots of porting and polishing, lightening and balancing the internals, and boost.. of if you want to go NA.. cams and higher compression.

Would it be worth it? I don't know. The extra .4 litres does technically give it more potential than the 2.0.. but until I can compare the guts to one with the guts from a beta.. no telling

zhiryst

I might as well post this since arctic never went anywhere with it...


I've seen first hand one of these engines on a stand. The block code is a 4g64... remember the evo engine? thats a 4g63. This is the same exact block, just stroked longer for a 2.4 size. It takes evo postons and rods, and I've seen an evo manifold bolt up perfectly to it. There IS a lot of potential to the engine, hell, all you'd have to do is rewire the harnesss with an evo ECU, throw in pistons, and turbo, and you'd have 300 HP. problem is, we can't fit these into our engine bays. We measured.

Sparticus

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zhiryst @ Apr 12 2007, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I might as well post this since arctic never went anywhere with it...</div>
jay's still around?? haha. who knew tongue.gif

and... if it doesn't fit into the RD.... would it fit into the GK beta-equipped engine bay?