Clear up 1.8L and 2.0L Beta differences
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Clear up 1.8L and 2.0L Beta differences
That stuff about the 1.8l and the 2.0l sharing the same pistons but not crank and rods are pure FALSE.
HY1836-1.8L Beta
Bore:81.5mm
Stroke:88mm
Rod.Diam:1.7709/1.7717
Main Diam:2.2435/2.2441
HY1997-2.0l Beta
Bore:85mm
Stoke:88mm
Rod.Diam:1.7709/1.7717
Main Diam:2.2435/2.2441
Part#
23110-23030 CRANKSHAFT 1.8L UP to 7/6/1999
23110-23220 CRANKSHAFT 2.0L up to 7/6/1999
23110-23510 CRANKSHAFT 1.8L from 7/6/1999
23110-23710 CRANKSHAFT 2.0L from 7/6/1999
23410-23010 PISTON & PIN ASSY 1.8L
23410-23210 PISTON & PIN ASSY 2.0L
23510-23000 ROD ASSY-CONNECTING 1.8L
23510-23700 ROD ASSY-CONNECTING 2.0L from 7/6/1999
23510-23200 ROD ASSY-CONNECTING 2.0L up to 7/6/1999
So basically, different bore, different pistons, different crank, different rods. But they do share the same block.
Just had to clear up the misinformation.
Just in case you want to look it up yourself.
HY1836-1.8L Beta
Bore:81.5mm
Stroke:88mm
Rod.Diam:1.7709/1.7717
Main Diam:2.2435/2.2441
HY1997-2.0l Beta
Bore:85mm
Stoke:88mm
Rod.Diam:1.7709/1.7717
Main Diam:2.2435/2.2441
Part#
23110-23030 CRANKSHAFT 1.8L UP to 7/6/1999
23110-23220 CRANKSHAFT 2.0L up to 7/6/1999
23110-23510 CRANKSHAFT 1.8L from 7/6/1999
23110-23710 CRANKSHAFT 2.0L from 7/6/1999
23410-23010 PISTON & PIN ASSY 1.8L
23410-23210 PISTON & PIN ASSY 2.0L
23510-23000 ROD ASSY-CONNECTING 1.8L
23510-23700 ROD ASSY-CONNECTING 2.0L from 7/6/1999
23510-23200 ROD ASSY-CONNECTING 2.0L up to 7/6/1999
So basically, different bore, different pistons, different crank, different rods. But they do share the same block.
Just had to clear up the misinformation.
Just in case you want to look it up yourself.
#2
i don't think you've cleared misinformation
this is really curious...
bore and stroke values you have post is completely different from other all specification published in the web
if you look at http://www.paul128.co.kr/paul/engine/hdgas-spec2.html
stroke should be:
85 mm in 1.8
93.5 mm in 2.0
i'm really really curious !
this is really curious...
bore and stroke values you have post is completely different from other all specification published in the web
if you look at http://www.paul128.co.kr/paul/engine/hdgas-spec2.html
stroke should be:
85 mm in 1.8
93.5 mm in 2.0
i'm really really curious !
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According an Hyundai Automotive Technician the ONLY difference between the 1.8L and the 2.0 L is the
1) Crankshaft
2) ECU
3) About 10 HP
The correct #'s:
BETA
1.8 D
2.0 D
ENG. MODEL
G4GM
G4GF
Displacement (cc)
1,759
1,975
Bore X Stroke
82.0 X 85.0
82.0 X 93.5
Anyone else have similar numbers?
-Steve
1) Crankshaft
2) ECU
3) About 10 HP
The correct #'s:
BETA
1.8 D
2.0 D
ENG. MODEL
G4GM
G4GF
Displacement (cc)
1,759
1,975
Bore X Stroke
82.0 X 85.0
82.0 X 93.5
Anyone else have similar numbers?
-Steve
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>BV1:
According an Hyundai Automotive Technician the ONLY difference between the 1.8L and the 2.0 L is the
1) Crankshaft
2) ECU
3) About 10 HP
The correct #'s:
BETA
1.8 D
2.0 D
ENG. MODEL
G4GM
G4GF
Displacement (cc)
1,759
1,975
Bore X Stroke
82.0 X 85.0
82.0 X 93.5
Anyone else have similar numbers?
-Steve</div>I agree with Steve. Don't forget the 1.8L had a higher lift cam of 4 degrees
According an Hyundai Automotive Technician the ONLY difference between the 1.8L and the 2.0 L is the
1) Crankshaft
2) ECU
3) About 10 HP
The correct #'s:
BETA
1.8 D
2.0 D
ENG. MODEL
G4GM
G4GF
Displacement (cc)
1,759
1,975
Bore X Stroke
82.0 X 85.0
82.0 X 93.5
Anyone else have similar numbers?
-Steve</div>I agree with Steve. Don't forget the 1.8L had a higher lift cam of 4 degrees
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I wonder if it makes a difference on the application?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>HY1836-1.8L Beta
Bore:81.5mm
Stroke:88mm
Rod.Diam:1.7709/1.7717
Main Diam:2.2435/2.2441
HY1997-2.0l Beta
Bore:85mm
Stoke:88mm
Rod.Diam:1.7709/1.7717
Main Diam:2.2435/2.2441
</div>This was for a 1.8l Elantra, and a 2.0l Sonata. I just assumed they were the same as the Tib and so forth. rolleyes.gif
Second, I wonder if location makes a difference. Mayhaps the Canadian version differed from the US version in that way.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Part#
23110-23030 CRANKSHAFT 1.8L UP to 7/6/1999
23110-23220 CRANKSHAFT 2.0L up to 7/6/1999
23110-23510 CRANKSHAFT 1.8L from 7/6/1999
23110-23710 CRANKSHAFT 2.0L from 7/6/1999
23410-23010 PISTON & PIN ASSY 1.8L
23410-23210 PISTON & PIN ASSY 2.0L
23510-23000 ROD ASSY-CONNECTING 1.8L
23510-23700 ROD ASSY-CONNECTING 2.0L from 7/6/1999
23510-23200 ROD ASSY-CONNECTING 2.0L up to 7/6/1999
</div>This i got from the Hyundai UsA Online parts site. Here's the link again.
Even if the stats arent the same the part #'s are still different. No company in their right mind would give the same part two different part #'s.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>bore and stroke values you have post is completely different from other all specification published in the web
if you look at http://www.paul128.co.kr/paul/engine/hdgas-spec2.html </div>This is ALL OTHER specifications listed on the web???
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>According an Hyundai Automotive Technician the ONLY difference between the 1.8L and the 2.0 L is the
1) Crankshaft
2) ECU
3) About 10 HP
</div>Who's this technician you speak of?
rolleyes.gif
If they a different crankshaft then they would have to have different connecting rods otherwise the piston would be getting into fight with the valves.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>HY1836-1.8L Beta
Bore:81.5mm
Stroke:88mm
Rod.Diam:1.7709/1.7717
Main Diam:2.2435/2.2441
HY1997-2.0l Beta
Bore:85mm
Stoke:88mm
Rod.Diam:1.7709/1.7717
Main Diam:2.2435/2.2441
</div>This was for a 1.8l Elantra, and a 2.0l Sonata. I just assumed they were the same as the Tib and so forth. rolleyes.gif
Second, I wonder if location makes a difference. Mayhaps the Canadian version differed from the US version in that way.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Part#
23110-23030 CRANKSHAFT 1.8L UP to 7/6/1999
23110-23220 CRANKSHAFT 2.0L up to 7/6/1999
23110-23510 CRANKSHAFT 1.8L from 7/6/1999
23110-23710 CRANKSHAFT 2.0L from 7/6/1999
23410-23010 PISTON & PIN ASSY 1.8L
23410-23210 PISTON & PIN ASSY 2.0L
23510-23000 ROD ASSY-CONNECTING 1.8L
23510-23700 ROD ASSY-CONNECTING 2.0L from 7/6/1999
23510-23200 ROD ASSY-CONNECTING 2.0L up to 7/6/1999
</div>This i got from the Hyundai UsA Online parts site. Here's the link again.
Even if the stats arent the same the part #'s are still different. No company in their right mind would give the same part two different part #'s.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>bore and stroke values you have post is completely different from other all specification published in the web
if you look at http://www.paul128.co.kr/paul/engine/hdgas-spec2.html </div>This is ALL OTHER specifications listed on the web???
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>According an Hyundai Automotive Technician the ONLY difference between the 1.8L and the 2.0 L is the
1) Crankshaft
2) ECU
3) About 10 HP
</div>Who's this technician you speak of?
rolleyes.gif
If they a different crankshaft then they would have to have different connecting rods otherwise the piston would be getting into fight with the valves.
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Although I have advocated checking the Hyundai online sources on the past, I would only trust these catalogs as far as I can throw them(which isn't very far consider it is a virtual list).
Hyundai Webtech has already proven itself fairly unreliable in differentiating even the second gen tiburons from the first gen, I wouldn't take their Extranet parts lists as golden either.
Hyundai Webtech has already proven itself fairly unreliable in differentiating even the second gen tiburons from the first gen, I wouldn't take their Extranet parts lists as golden either.
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The crank is differnt between the 1.8L and the 2.0L and also has different rods. That is how they get the .2L displacement difference. They share the same sized pistions.
The 2.0L Sonata is NOT a beta engine. That is probably where the confusion is coming from.
The 2.0L Sonata is NOT a beta engine. That is probably where the confusion is coming from.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> The crank is differnt between the 1.8L and the 2.0L and also has different rods. That is how they get the .2L displacement difference. They share the same sized pistions.
</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> 23410-23010 PISTON & PIN ASSY 1.8L
23410-23210 PISTON & PIN ASSY 2.0L</div>Then why two different #'s if they're the same size? Different piston head design? Higher or lower pin placement?
I've had both the 1.8l and 2.0 and I want to really clear up the difference.
</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> 23410-23010 PISTON & PIN ASSY 1.8L
23410-23210 PISTON & PIN ASSY 2.0L</div>Then why two different #'s if they're the same size? Different piston head design? Higher or lower pin placement?
I've had both the 1.8l and 2.0 and I want to really clear up the difference.
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As Random has mentioned its only the crank and rods that are different between the two motors.
Everything else is identical.
I have a 1.8L Tib and the difference between the two motors are pretty much the same HP?
Everything else is identical.
I have a 1.8L Tib and the difference between the two motors are pretty much the same HP?