155 Hp Type R Tiburon
#32
Did you even read my post mang??
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zoned019 @ Sep 22 2005, 01:59 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>And also, the 14 crank HP (not a lot in the first place) was netted by a COMBINATION of the air filter, intake cam, ECU, exhaust, and muffler. So if you add all that up and get 14 HP, how much HP do you think that that cam alone is giving you? not much man..
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Aside from totally not being cost-effective ... [see the top part to the post quoted above]
if you read that post^ and still think that the cam is going to give you 14hp .. i just don't know how else to explain that it WON'T
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zoned019 @ Sep 22 2005, 01:59 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>And also, the 14 crank HP (not a lot in the first place) was netted by a COMBINATION of the air filter, intake cam, ECU, exhaust, and muffler. So if you add all that up and get 14 HP, how much HP do you think that that cam alone is giving you? not much man..
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Aside from totally not being cost-effective ... [see the top part to the post quoted above]
if you read that post^ and still think that the cam is going to give you 14hp .. i just don't know how else to explain that it WON'T
#33
^ Here's something taken from Zoe's UKHCS:"The F2 Evolution boasts a number of modifications that make it the most powerful engine in the Coupe range. Based on the 2.0-litre four-cylinder twin cam engine fitted to the Coupe, it is enhanced to increase power by 12 per cent to 154bhp. The first major change is the camshaft, borrowed from Hyundai’s 1.8-litre Beta engine. The exhaust has also been upgraded, a new freer-flowing system being manufactured by Magnex, which also makes exhausts for Aston Martin. The overall effect of these changes is to increase power to 154bhp and maximum torque by 5 per cent, from 134lb ft to 140lb ft generated at 4900rpm".
So the 1.8L intake cam & better exhaust yielded a difference of 17bhp (at 6250rpm) & 6lb ft of torque.
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So the 1.8L intake cam & better exhaust yielded a difference of 17bhp (at 6250rpm) & 6lb ft of torque.
Hope this clears things up a bit fing02.gif
#34
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Screwdriver @ Sep 21 2005, 10:03 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>This cam works with the different exhaust + filter to produce 13-15 HP in the Type R correct?
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That makes more sense...
Youve been saying the cam alone produces 14-15hp
Exhaust + ECU + cam = 15 makes A LOT more sense...
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That makes more sense...
Youve been saying the cam alone produces 14-15hp
Exhaust + ECU + cam = 15 makes A LOT more sense...
#36
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (2kShark @ Sep 23 2005, 03:28 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>.... and still feel gains?
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the butt dyno has always been positive on hyundai sites.
Not many people can feel a 5whp difference..
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the butt dyno has always been positive on hyundai sites.
Not many people can feel a 5whp difference..
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Screwdriver @ Sep 21 2005, 11:00 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>The Type R comes with redone exhaust and an enhanced filter in addition to a different cam, correct?
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Correct, exactly like you said.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Screwdriver @ Sep 21 2005, 11:00 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Now while these might be beneficial, they cannot match an AEM intake, AIRRAM manifold, coated Headers and 2.5 inch Apexi Catback when it comes to removing restriction.
My arguement is simple. If whatever cam is in that car can provide a 14-15 HP gain over stock, then I believe it can do better with the above mods, even better when tuned at a dyno.
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Yes, the thing is, comparing the "improved" filter and exhaust vs. an AEM Cai and Apexi Catback, probably will net you a little more than what's on the F2 EVO. The point is, any performance mod shows big improvements when compared to OEM, which usually a) sucks or b) is designed to a different compromise than just performance (as we all here like)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Screwdriver @ Sep 21 2005, 11:00 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>That in itself is reason to get a better cam. My personal preference is to have one made by Hyundai itself. Hence this topic.
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Having stated that even with an AirRam, AEM Cai, and whatever exhaust, any slightly better cam can get better results than the cam alone with OEM engine; even if the F" EVO cam exists (which trust us, it does not) it could produce what? 1 or 2 crank HPs more than the 1.8? For 0,5WHP more than the 1,8 cam you better go for that one that you can get much cheaper, I think that's what zoned was trying to explain.
And, the F2 EVO cam does not exist, if in fact it did, it would have produced a lot more than those crank HP wouldn't it?
The REAL cam-Ecu combo uses a more agressive cam than the 1.8 and with slightly more lift, I am not sure how much, but I think it's around 240° duration and with more lift than the 1.8
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Correct, exactly like you said.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Screwdriver @ Sep 21 2005, 11:00 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Now while these might be beneficial, they cannot match an AEM intake, AIRRAM manifold, coated Headers and 2.5 inch Apexi Catback when it comes to removing restriction.
My arguement is simple. If whatever cam is in that car can provide a 14-15 HP gain over stock, then I believe it can do better with the above mods, even better when tuned at a dyno.
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Yes, the thing is, comparing the "improved" filter and exhaust vs. an AEM Cai and Apexi Catback, probably will net you a little more than what's on the F2 EVO. The point is, any performance mod shows big improvements when compared to OEM, which usually a) sucks or b) is designed to a different compromise than just performance (as we all here like)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Screwdriver @ Sep 21 2005, 11:00 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>That in itself is reason to get a better cam. My personal preference is to have one made by Hyundai itself. Hence this topic.
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Having stated that even with an AirRam, AEM Cai, and whatever exhaust, any slightly better cam can get better results than the cam alone with OEM engine; even if the F" EVO cam exists (which trust us, it does not) it could produce what? 1 or 2 crank HPs more than the 1.8? For 0,5WHP more than the 1,8 cam you better go for that one that you can get much cheaper, I think that's what zoned was trying to explain.
And, the F2 EVO cam does not exist, if in fact it did, it would have produced a lot more than those crank HP wouldn't it?
The REAL cam-Ecu combo uses a more agressive cam than the 1.8 and with slightly more lift, I am not sure how much, but I think it's around 240° duration and with more lift than the 1.8
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This might be a dumb question, but Edmunds.com rate a 1997 1.8L Tiburon at 130 HP
- Is this the Revision A that everyone talks about?
- Would that make the 1997 2.0 a Revision A or Revision B?? Or would that be a 1998?
Anyway, my main question is if the 1.8 L engine makes 10 HP less than the 2.0, then how does it's intake cam yield more HP out of the 2.0?
Just curious
- Is this the Revision A that everyone talks about?
- Would that make the 1997 2.0 a Revision A or Revision B?? Or would that be a 1998?
Anyway, my main question is if the 1.8 L engine makes 10 HP less than the 2.0, then how does it's intake cam yield more HP out of the 2.0?
Just curious