Screwdriver

Not true. That will end up costing atleast 3 times as much. I have already spoken with Rick about this.

At this stage, I'd rather stay as close to factory spec as I can.

Jaws021

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Screwdriver @ Sep 21 2005, 06:46 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>All I know is, if the cam can give 14 Crank HP without other NA mods, it should do better with them. <div align='right'><{POST_SNAPBACK}></div></div>


A factory cam that will add 14 crank hp without any other mods?

Good luck

zoned019

Dude, how much do you think it's going to cost to ..
find someone in UK or Korea who will drive around to junkyards for you
find one of the rare F2 or type R tibs
take time to pull out a cam AND an ECU (and those things are a PITA)
and finally ship a cam from the UK to the US.

then just imagine how hard it's going to be to install that ECU .. you're going to need wiring diagrams, too bad they'll probably be written in Korean. I doubt that you will be able to just match color with color.

Rick's GB was going for like $600 dude.

And also, the 14 crank HP (not a lot in the first place) was netted by a COMBINATION of the air filter, intake cam, ECU, exhaust, and muffler. So if you add all that up and get 14 HP, how much HP do you think that that cam alone is giving you? not much man..

Jaws021

you would have to find a "nice" junkyard.. usually junkyards like selling the whole head, not just one cam.

2kShark

Guys, no need to go out of your way to get just as much, if not more power than a Type-R Korean Spec Tiburon. Investing money into an AEM CAI, header, catback, the 1.8l cam, and pulleys and a little dyno time will definitely push you over 155 crank HP.

zoned019

^^Duh.
But were talking about CAMS only.

Casper

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zoned019 @ Sep 21 2005, 09:50 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>...then get in on the intake cam + ecu from RE.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zoned019 @ Sep 21 2005, 09:59 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>... the 14 crank HP (not a lot in the first place) was netted by a COMBINATION of the air filter, intake cam, ECU, exhaust, and muffler. So if you add all that up and get 14 HP, how much HP do you think that that cam alone is giving you? not much man..
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zoned019 @ Sep 21 2005, 10:19 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>But were talking about CAMS only.
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Which is it mang?

Personally, I felt a little improvement from the 1.8 but nothing amazing (not that I was expecting it).

I am speculating that Ricks cams will have high overlap (but I DONT KNOW for sure) to get the higher numbers. While this is good for NA, most people plan to go turbo... Overlap sucks for turbo applications. If I am wrong with the high overlap, ignore my comments.

Its hard to get cams that improve a lot... our heads suck. I personally feel that the money is better spent on making the head breathe better.

zoned019

Well, the topic of HP gains as per the F2 and type R we're talking about the cams and the ECU only.
But, the only reason that it makes it's additional 14HP is because of a LOT of other things, the cam and ecu just happen to be part of it. I am saying that regarding the cam/ecu, it's just not cost-effective to import the one from the F2 from UK when you can get rick's ecu/cam combo for a dynoed 15 to the wheels for around 6-700.
i believe rick said his cams will work for turbo applications also, just that the ecu will need to be specially tuned.

Screwdriver

Perhaps I should make myself clearer.

The Type R comes with redone exhaust and an enhanced filter in addition to a different cam, correct?

Now while these might be beneficial, they cannot match an AEM intake, AIRRAM manifold, coated Headers and 2.5 inch Apexi Catback when it comes to removing restriction.

My arguement is simple. If whatever cam is in that car can provide a 14-15 HP gain over stock, then I believe it can do better with the above mods, even better when tuned at a dyno.

That in itself is reason to get a better cam. My personal preference is to have one made by Hyundai itself. Hence this topic.

Jaws021

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Screwdriver @ Sep 21 2005, 09:00 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>If whatever cam is in that car can provide a 14-15 HP gain over stock,
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No it cannot... that cam will NOT give you 14-15... we have been telling that a cam alone will not give you 15hp alone