He's not boosting though..

Even if he was, Speed-Factor did 17psi on a regular auto tranny as his daily driver and no problems?

 

oh ok, i thought he was boosting for some reason. sorry.

it will definately still help for the drag racing and auto-x though. it is a lot of money for a little gain however.

 

Is there actually an HP/time gain?
Or is it purely the reliability and "smoothness" factor?

 

People don't send their auto trannies to level10 because the automatic trannies are horrible and aren't worth the time of day. Look at it this way:

- Your spending a grand or two to get it on par with a manual
- Your car will weigh more because of the auto tranny (and the add-ons)
- Your car will lose more horsepower through the automatic tranny
- Your Tib will never see drag times where an automatic tranny will be useful

Supra owners, 300ZX owners, Corvette owners, etc. send their trannies to Level10 to get an already good platform even stronger. Their cars are seeing times when driving a street manual gearbox becomes difficult to drive (below 12 secs).

Personally, if you go that route, it doesn't make much sense to me, but have fun...

 

You should search around, most folks have done this swap for well under 1 grand.

Hell, several for under 700 dollars.

Check your info.

Auto's suck.

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see the problem with autos are the fact that hyundai transmissions in general suck

so your spending money on a grenade

manuals are bad

autos are worse

we saw more autos grenading than almost anything when i was at hyundai

 

Lol merely saying autos suck is kind of a dogmatic opinion, and it will kind of hold you back in discussions like these.

I don't understand where the talk on manual transmission comes into play. Level10 makes good upgrades for the AT. Performance automatic transmissions become in par (dare I say, even better) than a MTX because it is so consistent.

PTS™ by Level 10 is a performance transmission system. I don't understand how the route I'm taking is so strange, seeing that the auto tranny is 'cheap' as you all suggest, means it is deficient, which is exactly what the Hydrosystem targets: the deficiencies in an automatic tranny.

I don't think Level 10 would provide a PTS kit for our Hyundai imports if they didn't have benefits from them. It's quite amazing, because this is truly a difference you can FEEL.

How could you not want the most out of your car? I may not even be making a stop at LevelTen for a long while, but it has caught my eye. Maybe after I've done some heavy tuning on my car, that is when I'll consider sending the car over to LevelTen.

 

I have an auto tranny too. I, however, plan to eventually swap to a manual. The most important thing is what YOU want though, and I think everyone is overlooking that here. If you want to keep your auto transmission for the life of your car, I think this would be a great way to make sure the life of your transmission is the same time period as the life of your car. I'm pretty sure you're completely right about how you would be the first RD member to go to level10 and have this done too, so it's a bit presumptuous of everyone to automatically say this won't do anything for you. If you want to do this, it sounds like it would be an intelligent way to go for an individual that wants to have an auto trans. Level10 is in business for a reason, and people hear of it for a reason, they know what they're doing and they're good at it. I say go for it, good luck, and let us know how it goes for you.

 

And you've driven a beefed up ATX from them with this kit? You know you can feel the difference? Really I don't like how any upgraded auto tranny feels, and I've driven a few... the shifts become harsh and sharp. Which is the only reason people buy ATXs on cars is for the smoothness of shifts consistently (at least until it starts to break, which for the Hyundai auto is quite soon...).

We're just trying to give the best advice to you that makes sense, which is to swap to a manual that is the lesser of two evils. They both have faults, but the auto has many more.

 

Well autos arent that smooth, mine jerks me foward every shift, manuals in other cars are much smoother