OK. well i have searched around for the random special. and found alot of info, thanks. also saw the dyno results very impresive. but i think that the dyno results would come out false. listen, a cai cold ait intake is an intake that gets straight cold air correct ok, now if it is in the fog light hole and your moving then its going to be forced air correct , but on a dyno test your not moving your sitting still so how could the cold air work to its full effect. just a question.

Drew

 

Your right... you would get more power moving

You would also get more power if it was winter...

 

Don't they run fans at the front of your car to simulate air flow?

 

the fan is blowing on the radiator, not the CAI location.

Also, that Dyno test was done with the fog light in place, so there would have been no 'ram air' effect from the fan, as the fog light blocks any direct airflow.

Lastly...even assuming there is NO fog light there, at speed, there is no "ram air" effect. Any air that goes into the fog light hole, goes right up and over the air filter, over the wheel hump and out the joint between the fender and drivers side door. Some also dumps out into the wheel well itself. In order to get ANY "ram air" effect, you need to have a sealed airbox. The fenderwell area is FAR from sealed.

No, any fenderwell intake (AEM, KORE, MHP, RS, Injen..etc..) gets NO and I mean NO "ram air" effect whatso ever, with or without a fog light. The only potential benefit is slightly COLDER air with the fog light removed as there is greater air flow, and better chance of getting "fresh" air vs air heated by the radiator or engine compartment.

[ November 19, 2002, 01:04 AM: Message edited by: Random ]

 

That is why I do not have a CAI. Use stock air box with larger inlet, cut out by yours truly, and fed the best direct straight line of air that is not"dirty" or wet, that means as far up from ground level as possible.

 

Random, if one was to fabricate a 'housing' behind the fog light hole and fasten it to the inside of the bumper, placed a filter in the cavity created, then that would be considered 'ram air'. Would it not?

 

You can try, but you would have to rig up some way for water to get out...which means holes....which sorta blows the whole pressurised airbox theory, or at least severely limits it's ability to keep/hold pressure.

Ram air is a marketing tool. Don't waste your time trying to make it "work" as the gains you might get out of it aren't worth the effort. (you would only see them above 60 MPH, if then).

 

I didn't plan on it anyway, just wanted to know if it was possible.

 

it's Possible to do. Anything is possible with enough time, money and labor thrown at it.

 

k thanks everyone.