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Old 07-15-2002 | 06:16 AM
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i was wondering if there are engine rebuild kits for a 1st gen 2.0L fx beta motor.
if so what do they consist of.
any other info about rebuilding would be appreciated.

i own a 1st gen Tib.. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

thanks in advance
Old 07-15-2002 | 06:43 AM
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get another engine

i got a spare thats going to be for sale cheap
maybe 200 bucks
lol
seriously though
choosing between reconstructing and getting a used engine

get the used engine

you can find a pretty used one for around 500-700 bucks

i know an engine gasket kit runs around $250
Old 07-15-2002 | 07:30 AM
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Yeah, depends on how far you want to go with the rebuild. To pull the head off, you need all new head bolts... There's $75+. Might as well do the gaskets, which is $250+ for the *Engine gasket rebuild kit* If you wanna get crazy and do bearings, they're around $50 or so for main and rod bearings... But that does you no good unless you have the crank turned and ya might as well balance it while you're there (machine shop cost: $100 probably

Rings definately have to be replaced on the rebuild, so you figure $30 for new Hyundai rings. But hell, the cylinder bores will likely need some cleanup, why not just overbore it? $150 for the Hyundai overbore pistons, probably $100 for the overbore and block-dip work by the machine shop.

So depending on how crazy you wanna be: somewhere between $350 and $1000.

If you want the new engine to support severe-duty horsepower, figure on a lot more.
Old 07-15-2002 | 08:24 PM
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Aight bro the standard Hyundai top overhaul gasket kit comes with these:

-Head gasket(1)
-D-seal(1)
-Rocker cover gasket(1)
-Valve stem seals(16)
-Intake manifold gasket(1)
-Exhaust manifold gasket(1)
-Thermostat housing gasket(1)
-Camshaft oil seals(2)

To do the whole head you're gonna need these too:

-Thermostat and thermostat gasket
-16 valves depending on your engine

To do the whole engine, provided there's no internal damage and you're gonna be reusing stock components you're gonna need these:

-Piston rings
-Con-rod bearings
-Crankshaft bearings
-Flywheel oil seal
-Crankshaft oil seal
-Oil pump oil seal
-Oil pickup gasket
-Oil pump gasket

To rework the engine you're gonna have to get this work done:

-Bore honing
-Re-decking
-Chemical-cleaning and possible ultrasound cleaning(use for race-blocks only, which have had their galleries deburred)
-Painting(optional)

Thats about it bro, and it's plenty of work. If you are gonna make monster power better get your stuff before you get to the teardown, or you'll be sitting at home for a long time.
Old 07-15-2002 | 08:32 PM
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What kind of benefits can be seen by rebuilding your motor with that kit, and around how much would all that cost?
Old 07-15-2002 | 10:08 PM
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Benefits? You've got all new seals, gaskets and rings, anything seeping or dripping will hopefully be stopped. Old bearings may have a bit more resistance or play, so you might get less internal friction or vibration. The benefit depends on how worn your engine is--the best you will do is restore it to near-new condition. An overbore will pick up a bit of displacement, but has a negligable effect, lacking any other significant change.

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So depending on how crazy you wanna be: somewhere between $350 and $1000.
Upgraded internals don't gain any horsepower either, except for small scraps due to improved piston design or a bit of head work. They just make the engine capable of supporting higher power.
Old 07-15-2002 | 11:46 PM
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Uhhh okay, the last question I think;

There will be no gains as the engine will basically be restored to it's *new* state, and you will have to break it in again thanks to the new rings and bearings. The break-in process will not be as long as before because of the bore and journals already broken in. You will basically have stock compression and nothing beyond that. All leaks will be stopped provided you have the proper tools such as seal applicators and if you DO NOT OVERDOSE THE ENGINE ON RTV SEALANT.

I cannot speculate on the costs, but it is good practice to email the garages around your area for a quotation on their labour costs and parts costs, along with timeframe outlooks. If they supply quotations on labour costs and parts costs seperately then all the better! Remember, the parts will be cheap, but the labour cost will be the killer. Essentially the entire engine will be out of the car. This is a good reason for you to think about any upgrades such as SR's Turbo system which may involve replacement of lower end components. It will also give you the chance to save on labour becauyse you get the engine rebuilt ONE TIME ONLY and also give you the chance to get a super heavy-duty set of bearings in there, perhaps as well as having all your bearings, journals and faces micropolished to kill stress and friction to a certain degree.

Thats about it man, but seriously, if you're gonna go for a high level of tune within the next 2 years, maybe you'll wanna run the car as it is while you get your stuff together and then send it in for the work, that way you pay one time for labour and when you get your car back, you're gonna feel great about it!

Good luck!
Old 07-16-2002 | 04:42 AM
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oh ok...so this is for the more worn out engines, I thought maybe it would just be a replacement of the stock engine components with either bulletproofing or maybe some performance parts.
Old 07-16-2002 | 04:56 AM
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You can do either one ... A rebuild can be simply to bring the car back to stock levels, or to make it stronger for more power. You can start with a relatively new block or a very old one.

Typically, the older motors with more miles make better *project* motors because A: they're cheaper and B: the blocks have been well tempered with all the mileage. But any motor will do, and any motor can be *rebuilt* to whatever level you want.

The basic *back to stock* rebuild usually happens on motors where it's obvious that it's no longer performing very well. Leaking or burning oil, equally low compression on all cylinders, reduced fuel efficiency (not including modifications), etc. This usually includes all new gaskets, seals, bearings, rings and head bolts. This is usually around $500 in parts; if you don't do your own labor, figure at least another $500.

The big-bad *project* rebuild happens when you want a lot more power and need to remedy the stock components. The parts you replace, and the cost of those parts, entirely depend on what your goals are for the engine.

The *typical* cost in making a BETA engine capable of 700+ horsepower is around $3000 in parts and machinework. If you don't do the labor yourself, figure another grand...
Old 07-16-2002 | 01:53 PM
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red, so your telling me that it would only be about 3000 grand in price, I was figuring about 5000 not counting labor for 300 whp, with a project motor, this is great news if it's true.



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