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12-01-2001, 08:55 PM
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Thanks Alot Cheuk - Not much work been done to the engine at all actually.... sad.gif Please tell us what times this car does on the 1/4 mile - if you know.
Red - Sorry buddy - but we have a Fiat X19 with a 2.0 16V mazda Turbo engine in running 9.89 second quarter mile and this only produces 280KW at the wheels. This relates to 375HP at the wheels! There is also another Fiat X19 with a Honda Turbo motor inside running a Ball Bearing Turbocharger doing a 10.1 second run! The power on this baby is also just under the 300Kw at the wheels mark.If only 1000WHP cars can run 9 second 1/4 mile times then I think we are going to patent our turbocharger upgrades! smile.gif
One of the fastest street legal cars that S.A has is a nissan pickup that has 3 stage NOS with a huge T4 Turbocharger that runs a 291.6km/h on the 1000m - the scary thing is that the driver only engaged the second stage of Gas on the run because of strong head winds and poor conditions on the day!
Estimated speed over the 1000m with the 3rd NOS stage enabled is 325km/h!
In our country the only V8's that can scare off the street legal cars are the top fuelers and some J frame runners! Other than that - our street legal cars run along side the V8's - dosn't say much for our V8's does it...
[ December 02, 2001: Message edited by: UFB ]
Red - Sorry buddy - but we have a Fiat X19 with a 2.0 16V mazda Turbo engine in running 9.89 second quarter mile and this only produces 280KW at the wheels. This relates to 375HP at the wheels! There is also another Fiat X19 with a Honda Turbo motor inside running a Ball Bearing Turbocharger doing a 10.1 second run! The power on this baby is also just under the 300Kw at the wheels mark.If only 1000WHP cars can run 9 second 1/4 mile times then I think we are going to patent our turbocharger upgrades! smile.gif
One of the fastest street legal cars that S.A has is a nissan pickup that has 3 stage NOS with a huge T4 Turbocharger that runs a 291.6km/h on the 1000m - the scary thing is that the driver only engaged the second stage of Gas on the run because of strong head winds and poor conditions on the day!
Estimated speed over the 1000m with the 3rd NOS stage enabled is 325km/h!
In our country the only V8's that can scare off the street legal cars are the top fuelers and some J frame runners! Other than that - our street legal cars run along side the V8's - dosn't say much for our V8's does it...
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12-02-2001, 08:56 AM
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I suppose I must qualify my statement.
Fiats are VERY small little cars smile.gif If you have a 200WHP motorcycle, you can get some VERY fast quarter mile times -- but that's because the bike and the rider probably weigh 500 pounds total. Same goes for the cars -- if you strap a monster motor onto a 1100lb car, it's going to move very quickly.
The cars that I see out here on the dragstrip are mostly full-body production cars that have been stripped and then had a cage welded in. They typically run 2500+ lbs because they're still streetable.
I'm not exactly sure what the limitations are where you live, but to be legal to daily drive, the car cannot have been cut and welded into just a body shell... And while you don't have to cut and weld a Fiat to make it light, you WOULD have to cut and weld and completely re-do the basic structure of a Malibu or old Cutlass 442 or Camaro to get it that light.
Advantage: Small light cars with big motors
I suppose, given a 400HP Tiburon and enough traction, you could get into the low 10's. I've seen Hondas do it. But to get them that low, you REALLY need traction with the front wheel drive cars.
Daily driver, street legal 10-second 400M imports are very hard to find in the US just for the reasons I listed above.
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Fiats are VERY small little cars smile.gif If you have a 200WHP motorcycle, you can get some VERY fast quarter mile times -- but that's because the bike and the rider probably weigh 500 pounds total. Same goes for the cars -- if you strap a monster motor onto a 1100lb car, it's going to move very quickly.
The cars that I see out here on the dragstrip are mostly full-body production cars that have been stripped and then had a cage welded in. They typically run 2500+ lbs because they're still streetable.
I'm not exactly sure what the limitations are where you live, but to be legal to daily drive, the car cannot have been cut and welded into just a body shell... And while you don't have to cut and weld a Fiat to make it light, you WOULD have to cut and weld and completely re-do the basic structure of a Malibu or old Cutlass 442 or Camaro to get it that light.
Advantage: Small light cars with big motors
I suppose, given a 400HP Tiburon and enough traction, you could get into the low 10's. I've seen Hondas do it. But to get them that low, you REALLY need traction with the front wheel drive cars.
Daily driver, street legal 10-second 400M imports are very hard to find in the US just for the reasons I listed above.
-Red-
12-02-2001, 09:46 AM
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Sorry but there are no 1/4 mile tracks here in Korea. No burnouts, minimal stopping area, irregular non prepped track, 300-400 meter runs depending on the "track". None of the cars get any traction.
I would guess mid to high 10's in their current setup. They run slightly faster than me... and most RX-7 similarly modded (single turbo, haltech...last dyno run was 443 RWHP) in the states run mid to high 10's. The best time I've had here is low 10's at 350 meters on an irregular, slightly uphills, non prepped track... It is a little dangerous racing high horsepower cars in these conditions.
With a real burnout and decent traction these cars maybe able to run faster but with better traction... the diff/shafts/tranny may become more of a factor.
I would guess mid to high 10's in their current setup. They run slightly faster than me... and most RX-7 similarly modded (single turbo, haltech...last dyno run was 443 RWHP) in the states run mid to high 10's. The best time I've had here is low 10's at 350 meters on an irregular, slightly uphills, non prepped track... It is a little dangerous racing high horsepower cars in these conditions.
With a real burnout and decent traction these cars maybe able to run faster but with better traction... the diff/shafts/tranny may become more of a factor.
12-02-2001, 10:49 AM
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I happen to own a 10.3 second honda and it is a daily driver 487 hp at the wheels and 564 at the flywheel I also own 198 hp at the wheels Kia Sephia smile.gif
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12-02-2001, 12:34 PM
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I happen to own a 10.3 second honda and it is a daily driver 487 hp at the wheels and 564 at the flywheel
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I happen to own a 10.3 second honda and it is a daily driver 487 hp at the wheels and 564 at the flywheel
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custom ECU REMAP
Big Bore Throttle body 63mm
43 gph accel fuel injectors
custom ram cold air intake
platinum +4 plugs
These are the only mods I can see would help improve hp.The rest are window dressings.
If that's all it takes to run in the 10's then sign me up. Hard to beleive........
12-02-2001, 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by Tibbon:
custom ECU REMAP
Big Bore Throttle body 63mm
43 gph accel fuel injectors
custom ram cold air intake
platinum +4 plugs
These are the only mods I can see would help improve hp.The rest are window dressings.
If that's all it takes to run in the 10's then sign me up. Hard to beleive........
custom ECU REMAP
Big Bore Throttle body 63mm
43 gph accel fuel injectors
custom ram cold air intake
platinum +4 plugs
These are the only mods I can see would help improve hp.The rest are window dressings.
If that's all it takes to run in the 10's then sign me up. Hard to beleive........
Or if that is all it takes to get 198 out of a kia sephia!
12-02-2001, 05:10 PM
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tibbon random is right that is my kia's mods smile.gif my honda has a turbo with 14 psi of boost and 100 shot of nos and all the bolt on mod you can buy plus a full new top and bottom motor smile.gif
12-03-2001, 03:48 AM
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Red -
Yeah power to weight ratio
In S.A ANYTHING with an engine and indicators is street legal.... so I guess now you made your point a little clearer.
We are busy with a street legal (in S.A laws... ) Fiat Uno that will be running a Lancia Integrale EVO IV engine and tranny with huge turbo and many internal and suspension mods. Approximate weight of tihs car will be about 500KG's and power is estimated to be at 350KW plus at the wheels. We would like to break the S.A record of 7 seconds 1/4 mile run (this was achieved by an S.A "street legal" Ford Escort with a V8 twin turbo and 500HP NOS setup that ran with our old jet car (a little used already .... )
Yeah power to weight ratio
In S.A ANYTHING with an engine and indicators is street legal.... so I guess now you made your point a little clearer.
We are busy with a street legal (in S.A laws...
) Fiat Uno that will be running a Lancia Integrale EVO IV engine and tranny with huge turbo and many internal and suspension mods. Approximate weight of tihs car will be about 500KG's and power is estimated to be at 350KW plus at the wheels. We would like to break the S.A record of 7 seconds 1/4 mile run (this was achieved by an S.A "street legal" Ford Escort with a V8 twin turbo and 500HP NOS setup that ran with our old jet car (a little used already .... )
