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Old 05-14-2008 | 08:07 AM
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well, this is the first time i have been scammed by the internet. owned.gif none of it was my fault by giving out info, someone seeing my bank account info, etc.

MANY MANY people are at risk.. basically anyone that had opened a greenzap account is at HIGH risk.

As some of you know, greenzap was a company that was supposed to compete with paypal a few years ago. they offered a 25$ incentive to sign up, and NO ONE go their 25$ cuz it was 'web bucks'

Anyway, about a month ago, GreenZap was bought by a 'dummy' corporation which WIKI quotes:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>In April 2008 GreenZap was purportedly purchased by DCL-ENV Inc., otherwise known as eSafe. This company is largely believed to be a fraudulent dummy corporation that in actuality has stolen bank account information from GreenZap and began cashing unauthorized checks for $19.75 or $19.95 out of every account. Anyone who has been a victim can contact the FTC at their website.</div>

these withdrawls have been documented as early as mid-2007 that i have found. its also known as the Strong Bucks scam.

There are many websites that document the various people nationwide that this has affected. If you try emailing greenzap, emails bounce back.. if you try calling, they assure you of rebate checks, and they bounce.

some people have had 100$ a month deducted from their accounts and as much as 500$ at one time. Most are 19.75 or 19.95.

Here are some various websites and threads about this scam.

GreenZap Scam thread

Scam.com thread

ripoff report

very good info > Strong bucks scam

anyways, just wanna keep you guys aware.

I have filed complaints with BBB, FTC, internet fraud, and contacting local news soon.
Old 05-14-2008 | 08:24 AM
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Happened to me too, I went to the bank to get the transactions canceled.
Old 05-14-2008 | 10:29 AM
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what do the transactions show up as?
Old 05-14-2008 | 10:55 AM
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i have heard them showing up differently.. if you take a look at some of those links it will show you different names they show up as. mine showed up as:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>05/12/2008| |Withdrawal eSafe TYPE: 8669251969 CO: eSafe| |-19.75| |815.48</div>

^^ thats EXACTLY how it showed up.
Old 05-14-2008 | 11:30 AM
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Damn. I remember the company, but I don't know if I signed up or not.
Old 05-14-2008 | 04:35 PM
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Im pretty sure I did, but I don't think I ever linked any banking stuff to it.

Any way to find out for sure where we stand without messing with their nightmare system of sign in?
Old 05-14-2008 | 04:39 PM
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im not sure, you might be able to ATTEMPT calling, but that has gotten most people no head-way.

i don't even know my sign in, nor which email i used, so i couldn't even sign in to try and cancel/remove bank info.

just as an FYI, i used ALL of my current, past, way past email address's to try to get forgotten passwords, and NONE were recognized. im thinking all of the people that had accounts may have had them locked/un-accessable when this new 'scam' company took over so info couldn't be removed.
Old 05-14-2008 | 10:19 PM
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It's not important anyway, they have the data now, even if you remove it from your account they still have it somewhere on their servers.
Old 05-14-2008 | 11:16 PM
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I had an account with them as well. I never gave them my banking information though, I was waiting to see how the company did.




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